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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:24 pm 
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So our dietician today advised us to start to swap out Chris' bottles for Oats milk. She said if possible to get Oats Milk with added Calcium but i can't find it ANYWHERE with added calcium. Rice milk is all i've seen and we've been told it's not good for babies so to not give him that.
Anyone know somewhere that may do it? I've Checked the nearby Tesco and Asda, neither had it with added calcium.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:27 pm 
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ive never seen it with added calcium, but maybe give him the normal one but up the non dairy calcium sources like sweet potato? Smile can i ask y they have advised on oat milk? xXx
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:30 pm 
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He's lactose intolerant and cow milk protein allergic. We're in the process of trying to wean him onto Milk products now. When we moved house the HV we were ment to have at the new address retired so we 'fell through the cracks' and totally missed the weaning stage so are starting a little late. Our first baby, we didn't realise when we were supposed to start giving him milk in a cup Embarassed
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:39 pm 
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my LO Kieran is milk protein allergic too! we just waiting for a referal for allergy ppl at the hosp!
they can keep him on prescription milk until he is 2! and tbh i would, and just introduce the cows milk products gradually but at least he still getting the right nutrients from the milk!
u can still give him the prescription milk in a cup Smile xXx
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:04 pm 
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Nice to know i'm not the only mum in the world with this trouble Smile He's on too much Formula right now so we're trying to cut him down, the best way is with the Oats milk as he'll still get the nutrients he needs but it'll have a different taste. We'll have to substitute it for cows milk for all his food so it's helping him to get used to it too. Anyway, thanks for the replies Smile Will get him the blue Oatly milk stuffs i saw earlier and see how he goes. Such a hassle having to check EVERYTHING for milk or lactose! Jeez! x
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:17 pm 
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oh i know hun!! its a pain in the bum! especially as they get older too Sad like when the weather is nice and the kids want ice cream they cant as i cant let them have them n not Kieran Sad

so how much food is he having? when u said u missed the weaning stage completely did u mean he is still completely on formula? xxX
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:20 pm 
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We started him on baby rice at about 4-5 months i think. And by weaning i mean weaning him off his formula. We didn't have anyone to tell us when and how to do it. Or what kind of foods he should of been having and how much. We've really struggled because of his intolerance and allergy. Whenever he reacted badly to something i never knew if i should stop giving him it or keep trying. FINALLY we have some guidance though so wahey!
He's having 3 bottles of 7-9oz of formula at the minute, i managed to cut his after nap bottles quite easily, he just said no to it one day so i gave him juice instead haha. He eats mostly finger foods and such as he's not very good with a spoon unless it's painting the walls or using it like a slingshot.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:55 pm 
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oh i get u! lol sorry quite hard to understand the context in which people mean on here sometimes! lol
well u sound like you are doing great! my 9yo still uses his hands too hahaha!

have u given him any cows milk products yet?
i started given Kieran a few things when he was about a year and a half, and he seemed fine, worked our way up to yogurts and cheese etc then started having normal milk on his cereal and was fine Smile then he started drinking cows milk as a drink and his eczema flared u really bad, especially on his face, so i cut out the milk drinks and his fcae cleared up, but he still had really bad and REALLY smelly runny nappies, so doc said go back to dairy free for a month and yep within a couple of days he was fine again!
so we are completely cows milk free again!! i SOoooo hoping he does grow out of it! but now he is 2 and still reacting, he has to be refered to some allergy person at the hosp to run proper allrgy tests Rolling Eyes
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:39 am 
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He doesn't have dairy products, and we try avoid most things with milk, soya or lactose in the ingredients. But he's okay having things like pastries and biscuits (cookies, ginger bread men etc)and some other things.
Every now and then we'll try him with something with milk in, and usually 2 days later we get really smelly green nappies so we stay away from them.
He has eczema on his torso that comes and goes, i never thought it might be due to his allergy!

I'm certain your little one will grow out of it, myself and my 3 brothers were all the same as babies, by about 2 years we were slowly weaned onto dairy and now we're all cheese fiends!
If not, fingers crossed if he has it for life that it just upsets his tummy and nothing more.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:28 pm 
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Hi ladies, I am just wondering how you knew your children were protein allergic? We are having a hard time with our 8mth old who is CONSTANTLY sick. After milk, food and even when he hasnt had anything, he is sick. He is in no pain with this but it just somes and coes. He has been at docs and we are now waiting to go and see the paediatricians but are hugely worried about it. We have tried lactose free milk and weysoy milk and he is now on staydown but none have worked. we have also had gaviscon but no success.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:43 pm 
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aw hun that sounds awful!!

Kieran wasnt really sick v much but his nappies were awful and god did they stink with blood and lots of mucus in too, he cried and cried all the time, constant wind and forever seemed like he had a tummy ache, then he developed quite nasty eczema on his face which kept getting infected n looked horrible (to the point that i didnt want people looking ta my baby! Crying or Very sad
then my HV suggested a soya based milk, went to GP they prescribed it, n nothign changed, went back to GP they prescribed him a hypoallergenic milk and literally within 2 days he was a completely different baby!!!
so they put it down to milk protein allergy, we are waiting to see allergy people at hospthough for proper tests now.

really really hope they find out whats up with ur LO, is he having problems with his weight etc? xxx
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:15 pm 
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We found out our LO had an allergy after he was in hospital at 4 months with a tummy bug. (he wouldn't eat and was loppy and unresponsive, was fed through a tube) The formula he's on doesn't have any protein in it mind so i've no idea where they got that result from. It was just on the discharge form we got. That's also when they gave us Thickner because his stomach wasn't developed enough to hold down his milk apparently. Was a blue tin that looks like salt, put a small spoon of it in each bottle. Worked straight away, we weaned him off it over about 6 months and now he's fine.
I hope you find out soon, it's horrible to see your little one like that. x
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