AskBaby Talk > IVF & Sterilisation Reversal > Getting pregnant after sterilisation reversall part 14
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:44 pm
Yeah men are allowed in the delivery room Shelly, in the 60's and 70's they were discouraged but very much encouraged to be there now, they do restrict it to 2 birth partners max in most places though and just your husband or boyfriend if you have a section The only time partners aren't allowed in is for sections under general anaesthetic .It's funny because before the NHS started in the 40's men would always be there for the birth as most women gave birth at home and then suddenly it became less of a family thing and much more medical and men were shut out
I think its swinging back the other way now as home birth is becoming more popular again
I didn't pay for my HSG that was NHS but at the hospital I had my reversal at it was £270 for a private one, some places its more like 400 so about $400-600
My OH's firm actually offered to pay towards private health care for him and said I could be on it too but after reading the paperwork it wouldn't have covered any of the fertility stuff anyway so we didn't bother
Don't even get me started on dental care even on the NHS most people have to pay towards treatments and they do the bare minimum , only do the horrible grey metal fillings and anything they consider cosmetic you have to go private for
I watched a US birth series once in a big urban hospital where they were saying they had women come in who'd never seen a doctor their whole pregnancy and would just turn up in labour with allsorts of undiagnosed problems , their infant mortality rate was the equivalent of some 3rd world countries , I just think its so sad that some people just can't afford to get even the most basic medical care ,so i suppose we should be grateful we have the NHS but then we do pay for it indirectly I suppose through NI contributions xx
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:59 pm
NAT THAT IS SO NORMAL IN THE US THAT WOMEN THAT ARE PREGNANT DONT SEE A DOCTOR TIL SHE IS IN LABOR. THEY CAN GET FREE MEDICAL CARE FORM THE GOVERNMENT.ITS CALLED MEDICAID.. IF U ARE A LOW INCOME FAMILY AND UR PREGNANT U WILL BE APPROVED FOR MEDICAL CARE FOR FREE AND SO WILL UR CHILDREN. SO THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THEM NOT SEEING A DOCTOR... MOST OF THEM THAT DONT SEE ONE THEY ARE DRUG USERS.. WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HIDE THERE PREGNANCIES AND GIVE BIRTH THEN THROW THERE BABY AWAY IN THE TRASH.. THOSE PEOPLE ARE WORTHLESS.. I DONT KNOW ABOUT THERE BUT IN THE US IF A WOMAN IS PREGNANT AND DONT WANT THE BABY AND SHE DOESNT TELL ANYONE THAT SHE IS PREGNANT SHE CAN DROP THE BABY OFF AT A CHURCH, HOSPITAL, FIRE STATION, OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SHE WILL NOT GO TO JAIL.. SHE DOESNT HAVE TO TELL HER NAME OR NOTHING..AS LONG AS SHE DROPS THE BABY OFF NOT HARMED... SOMETHINGS HERE ARE CRAZY... BUT I GUESS THAT IS EVERYWHERE......
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:35 am
Jillybeanz I had my Op keyhole so just a tiny vut in my belly button and two a few mm long on each side , but if you have the laparotomy cut then I believe its very much like the c section cut and will be around 5 inches long , I dodn't know if they cut the muscle as well which is part of what makes a c section take so long to recover from
The Ladies who've had open and c sections have said its very similar after ,
I have had 3 sections though and by two weeks in I could do pretty much everything I normally did except heavy lifting but I was back driving etc. (with the insurance companies approval) I would be a bit sore if I over did it though, everyone seems to be different though when it comes to recovery
To be honest after 3 sections it was the thought of the recovery that made me opt for keyhole , does your surgeon not offer that xx
Shelly some of the women were obvious drug users, it's tragic really for their poor babies , I can't understand why a pregnant woman wouldn't try and stop
Not all of them though so it is strange more of them didn't get some sort of medical treatment while pregnant I know being pregnant isn't an illness but some things like placenta preavia and pre eclampsia can kill you and your baby so I don't understand why women wouldn't get checked if they can
I think the police are pretty leniant here if a woman leaves a baby somewhere that it will be found,its not legal as such but I don't think women are prosecuted for it, I can sort of understand a very young girl who's terrified of people knowing leaving her baby somewhere safe, but the ones who don't seem to care if the baby dies sicken me and sometimes they turn out to not even be teenagers but women in their 20's There's so many couples willing to adopt babies there's no excuse for dumping them
Yep there's crazy stuff everywhere Shelly, we have our fair share of it and Britains not the country it once was, before we went to Germany I was reluctant to leave,I never thought I'd want to live anywhere else but then to be honest after 5yrs there I didn't want to come back and if we ever win the lottery we're off to somewhere with a better climate and a more laid back way off life xx
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:19 am
I got a second temp rise this morning
Up to 99.4F so i think I can safely say i did ov last Friday and am 7DPO which is amazing for me never thought I'd ov on cd11 At least now I know that i do know my body well as I was doubting myself a bit thinking maybe I miss read the signs and it couldn't have been so early
Best bit is we'd BD Thursday and Friday , so the timing was right and it didn't matter about not bothering on Saturday
I don't know if its just because a part of me think I could be in with maybe a teeny tiny chance this month but I seem to have loads of 2ww "symptoms" going on
Nothing I haven't had before and not been pregnant mind you
Only weird one was the buzzing/vibrating over my uterus all day wednesday , now I know that was definately 5DPO and good timing for possible implantation I have to admit I did get a bit excited about it
I obviously never learn
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:30 pm
Jilly beans i had it done via section, the cut is about 5-6 inches long and it is just above your origanal lowest keyhole cut, they staple it up and the staples are removed in 6 days after the op.
not long you might think but long enough, they give you a few water proof players to use when showering, but after two days thy advise to keep it uncovered to let the air get to it, I went in on a Friday, I got out of hosp on the Sunday, my partner went to work on the Monday, they encourage you to be up and walk but no lifting like hoovering ect. You can lift a kettle ect, they advised to be at work within 2 weeks, I went after 3 as my job is very heavy lifting, and your not advised to drive for two weeks, and before you do, practice your emergency stop and if you can safely do that without pain you can drive. You surprisingly don't have much pain other than discomfort, if the co-codomols are not strong enough your doctor can prescribe you stronger ones, but be warned they do make u like a zombie.
I was mildly sick on the Monday morning after taking pain killers on empty stomachs and as I was sick I felt a tear beneath the skin of the wound, and on the following Thursday I was reaching over to my bed side table and felt a bigger tear, it didn't break the skin just caused another lumpy scar tissue directly under the wound, but the doc said it was all ok, and my pre op (6) weeks after. The consultant said it was all ok xx
They advise to have one normal period before you start TTC,
Hope this helps xx
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:16 pm
MORNING LADIES!!! THANK GOD ITS FRIDAY!!!
JILLYBEANZ----THEY CUT ME LIKE A CSECTION.. I HAD NEVER HAD ONE B4 I HAD VAGINAL BIRTHS.. I HURT THE DAY AFTER SURGERY AND EACH DAY GOT BETTER. I HAD DISSOLVABLE STITCHES.. I HAD MINE ON A FRIDAY AND WENT BACK TO WORK ON A TUESDAY DUE TO NOBODY KNEW I HAD IT DONE
TO BE HONEST THE WALKING HELPED ME RECOVER FASTER..HOPE EVERYTHING GOES WELL FOR U!!!!
NAT--IT IS CRAZY THAT WOMEN HAVE BABIES AND JUST LEAVE THEM TO DIE. WHEN WE ARE TRYING SO HARD TO HAVE ANOTHER.. I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND BUT THEN I CAN'T LET MYSELF GO THERE CAUSE I WILL BE ANGRY ALL THE TIME.. I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAS 3 KIDS AND ALWAYS COMPLAINING HOW ITS TO MUCH FOR HER TO HANDLE BUT THEN GOES AND GETS PREGNANT AGAIN. MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT..THEN I HAVE A FRIEND THAT IS TRYING AND ON CLOMID SHE HAS 2 BUT ALWAYS CONPLAIN ABOUT HER DH NEVER HELPING HER WITH THEM. SHE IS A GOOD MOM BUT SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW HE DOESNT FEED, BATHED, OR EVEN WATCH THEM WHILE SHE GOES TAKES A BATH OR TO THE STORE.. BUT SHE IS TRYING TO HAVE ANOTHER..SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME THAT I WAS STUPID FOR TRYING AGAIN BUT I HAVE A WONDERFUL MAN IN MY LIFE AND HE WOULD BE THERE AND HELP WITH EVERYTHING. THATS Y I AGREED TO HAVE IT DONE. BESIDES THEY ARE NOT THE ONES THAT HAS TO RAISE THEM I AM.. SOME PEOPLE
SORRY JUST NEEDED TO VENT A LITTLE
HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY!!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:39 pm
Ok, so.. I spoke to my surgeon and yes it's like a c-section (I have had three of them) and I will have dissolvable stitches... Thanks ladies for all your help, support and advice my hubby is so tired of me talking about it...I can see it goes straight in the one ear and out the other
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:42 pm
HEY LADIES NEED SOME ADVICE!!!!
MY FRIEND WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN SHE HAD A IUI. AND HOW SHE GOT PREGNANT.. MY QUESTION IS HAS ANYONE HAD THIS DONE AND SHOULD I THINK ABOUT HAVING ONE.. I CALLED A DOCTOR TO SEE THE PRICE AND ITS $460 AND MY INSURANCE WILL PAY FOR THE MEDS AND A HSG.....
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:02 am
Shelly if you can afford it I'd go for it , not had one myself although we did discuss it before we found out the issue was a blockage and I would have tried it (it was very expensive here though so $460 sounds like a good price),theres a couple of ways of doing it and they have different success rates, one is on a medicated cycle with something like clomid to try and get more than one egg and probably a trigger shot to time ovulation to suit them , often they'll do tracking scans and can even put the washed sperm directly into the entrance to the tube on the side they can tell you will ov (with a thin catheter like the ones they use to replace embryo's in IVF)from so you get millions delivered practically to the egg instead of the normal 20 or 30 that make it that far .
Or you can just use OPK's and then have the washed sperm put just into the cervix when you get your surge, that way you don't have to worry about any issues with cm etc. but they still have to make their own way to your tubes so some will still die off , putting them into the tube has a better success rate
Found this site that explains it all
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:10 am
Jillybeanz you still need to check with your insurance company about driving, some are happy if your docs fine with it, others have set times after certain op's Whens your Op booked for ? xx
Woke up her this morning to a lot of snow must have been snowing all night , opened the front door and there was a wall of snow to about half way up from where it had been drifting so my plan for the weekend is to stay in and keep warm
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:38 pm
NAT THANKS FOR THE ADVICE!! I TALKED TO DH AND HE SAID ITS A GOOD IDEA ....I TOLD HIM I WOULD TRY THE CLOMID FOR ANOTHER 2 MONTHS AND THEN IF IM NOT PREGNANT I WILL GO AND TRY IT!!! IM SO GLAD THAT MY INSURANCE PAYS FOR MOST OF IT EXCEPT PROCEDURE....I WILL START BD TONIGHT FOR THE NEXT 5 DAYS... SO PLEASE PRAY THAT IT WORKS
JELLYBEANZ.. I HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FOR U AND THE SURGERY GOES WELL. WILL BE PRAYING FOR U!!
LAST NIGHT ME AND DH WENT OUT WITH FRIENDS HAD A NICE DINNER AND A LOT OF GLASSES OF WINE.. SO NEEDED THAT. THEN WE WENT TO SEE A PLAY.. IT WAS OK BUT NOT REALLY MY THING.. GOT HOME AT 2 THIS MORNING.. SO TIRED BUT HAVE LOTS TO DO TO GET READY FOR THE WORK WEEK...
HOPE YOU WONDERFUL LADIES HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!