ivf or sterilisation reversal? help please, im going mad! x

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:29 pm 
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Hi Godders

I was 41 in March, I was sterilized 12 years ago and had my reversal 2 weeks ago Very Happy

We chose the Reversal route as I just wanted to be put back together again....If we are lucky enough to have a baby then we will be over the moon Smile

You will find whichever route you take it will be a rollercoaster journey of ups and downs and whatifs Crying or Very sad

Good luck

Deb xx
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:45 pm 
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Very Happy lol, i see Wink
Yes, having a reversal done does have it's problems sadly. More risk of ectopic Sad
I had open surgery, both tubes repaired. Sadly one tube blocked within 6 months of the op.
The other tube they said was prob blocked too after 2yrs. But to our shock i became pregnant !!!!!! Shocked Everything was fine, bubs in the right place.

I was about to start IVF after saving hard Very Happy

Your best bet is to talk it over with a surgeon. Have tests done on both you and your partner.
Just to check you are both working Wink Would be a waste of money and time if something
was wrong hun.

Where abouts are you Claire ? As someone maybe able to help with a surgeon xxx
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:02 am 
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Hi there. i really didnt know what to get either ivf or reversal but for all the comments i got i am now going to have the ivf hun. im scared of the reversal as have had 4 c secs. i so regeret being sterilised too. hope you make the right desision im sure u will. im waiting to see my doc again to get a referral for the ivf.xx
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:31 am 
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Hi Rachel

I'm in Exeter, Devon. I think we probably will go down the reversal route...I've got to break the news to hubs that he'll have to provide a specimen! Laughing Laughing not that it'll phase him in the slightest.

We did look into it last year in the area where we used to live & we spoke to the specialist (who ironically did my sterilisation!) he was brilliant & he actually said that if we could have got the funding through the NHS he would have absolutely no objections to carrying out the reversal himself, he could also recommend other surgeons if we went private. We decided not to pursue it at that point as we knew we were moving & finances weren't great.

Now we're settled we've got to the point where we really want to go for it.

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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:59 am 
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Laughing Most men have no problem !!!

I had my op at the New Hall Hospital, Salisbury, Wilts I got mine funded via the NHS, due to
the sad death of my last baby Crying or Very sad
The site i used incase of funding failing was
http://www.privatehealth.co.uk/hospitaltreatment/find-a-treatment/infertility-treatment/female-sterilisation-reversal/
Also Ramsay Health Care.
But your best bet, is to get back in touch with the specialist who did your sterilisation.
As he may well be to help you again Wink

It is one big roller-coaster, trust me !!!!!! eeek xxx
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:59 pm 
Post subject: OMG!!....so angry...
I read an article recently about gastric band procedures being carried out on the NHS...at a loose end this afternoon & thought I'd look into it (being that we women who seek a reversal on the NHS are considered to be the antichrist!!)....for a start a gastric band procedure costs 7000!!...there is NO age limit...from what I can see although they want to see evidence that all other weight loss efforts have been exhausted...yeh right!...some people have been asked to lose weight to bring them into the criteria before the op & have!!...so the problem in losing weight is????...I come from a family who are prone to morbid obesity & have seen all the complications that arise from that but the key issue was & has always been a rubbish fatty diet & lack of exercise....any kind of quick fix eg. diet pills were always favoured....
I even took a look at some of the forums that they have and it really really upset me.

My point is that from personal experience these people have a choice and they can do something that doesn't involve medical intervention to help their situation...it may take time but they just want a quick fix & alot of them revert back to their old ways because they believe the band is a miracle cure...the only miracle we want is a healthy baby, give us that & we'll do the rest.

I would say that all of you guys have been sterilised for a whole number of reasons....reasons beyond anybody elses control & yet when we ask for help to reverse the situation or for help in getting pregnant by other means it falls on deaf ears....whilst I don't expect the NHS to dig their hands into their pockets for everyone wanting help with their infertlity problems, it hurts that the door is closed on so many of us, that if we don't have the means that's it game over....it sucks.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:08 pm 
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Well said Godders it makes my blood boil

We went to my doctor in Dec 2010 to ask if the NHS would do my reversal (it was due to a clerical error and me being clinically depressed that got me sterilised in the first place!!) ....initially my doctor said "No you're over 39!" I turned 41 this March...then it turned out that my medical records had been "lost" after about 3-4 weeks DH and I decided to fund the op ourselves due to the time that was being wasted and the clock tick tick ticking!!!

oooh thank you - I've not had a rant like that in a while - it felt good Very Happy xx
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:21 pm 
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Hi Rachel

Thanks for the link....did it a few days ago...so far we've been quoted 4290!!! We did go for NHS help in the last area we lived in....it went before a panel (that we couldn't attend) & it was rejected because of my age and the fact I already had children....I don't think they even looked at my notes to find out the circumstances behind my sterilisation, the surgeon who performed it I spoke to at length and even he said that everybody has a right to change their mind and was 100% behind us.....I don't expect the NHS to pick up the tab, some help would have been nice, they just threw it out without any real consultation and it hurts.

I'm off to see my GP next week, if anything just to discuss our options even though I know what they will say but doing something is better than doing nothing xx
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:56 pm 
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Lol....no worries MrsDebM!!!....my story very very similar to yours.....out of interest how much have they told you?...I've been told 4290 but no breakdown as to what that involves!!!....just feel like I'm fair game and these private clinics can name their price!!...
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:18 pm 
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We paid 3,125 at Spire Macclesfield for keyhole, I had been quoted 2,700 at Doncaster for open surgery. Is it possible for you to travel a bit further afield to get a better price?
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:21 pm 
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Godders I couldn't agree more I was sterilised in Germany 9yrs ago, when my OH was in the forces, was aked literally on the way into theatre for an emergency section with a prem baby, she just asked me if I wanted to make sure "this" didn't happen again and in the spur of the moment I signed the consent form, I'd never met the doctor before that night and she knew nothing about me, If I'd been asked at any other time I would have said no Sad but even with those circumstances my GP told me the NHS would point blank refuse to fund my reversal, she said they will only fund if you lose a child like Rachel Sad
Like you say the NHS funds treatment for overweight people who could help themselves , they pay for treatment for smokers and boob jobs and allsorts , in some areas for people who've been trying to conceive and had tests which come back as nothing wrong they will fund IVF , although in theory those people could get pregnant naturally it just might take a while , but when it comes to this even if your partner has no children they don't want to know , I've just been told that when I have a lap and dye to check if my one repaired tube is blocked, if it is they won't unblock it Rolling Eyes which I think is because they consider that a "fertility treatment" and by having private fertility treatment eg. the reversal that means they won't offer you any treatment on the NHS only investigations Mad you have to have the op privately because they wont fund it so you cant win Mad ok thats my rant over Embarassed
I had my op last August at spire macclesfield (regency) it cost 2700 keyhole but it's gone up to 3125 now ,mine was a fixed price qoute that included everything even extra nights stay if required but didn't include the initial consultation, xx
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:39 pm 
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hello godders, i was also 40 in march and im just waiting for my bloodtest results to make sure alls well before i progress, i went to a doc 3 years ago and got laughed at for asking about reversal via NHS, fortunatly ive saved my pennies and my doc now is so far being helpful in doing as much as he can before i have to start to pay. I opted for reversal as my partner wasnt keen on the clinicalness of ivf, that and with my age to me it seemed the better option, good luck and you will find all these ladies lovely x
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:30 pm 
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Hi

Well went to see my GP....total waste of time, I'm a new patient & she hadn't even bothered to read my notes! She is brudgingly getting someone to "check a few things out" & wouldn't even help in getting any basic tests done, so I'm not holding my breath with what she comes back with...if she comes back to me at all!

After that we've decided to pay for it ourselves & go for the reversal. Don't mind travelling so we're going to check out the clinics that you guys have kindly mentioned. We have family up north so it wouldn't be a problem.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:37 pm 
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Very Happy Hi hun, i'm in Wiltshire. I had my op done at New Hall Hospital
http://www.ramsayhealth.co.uk/our_hospitals/choose_a_hospital/south/new_hall_hospital.aspx
Mr Fountain is a great man, and will NOT take you money if he thinks your op would ba a waste
of time Wink
Just fill in the 'contact us' and they are very quick to get back to you, with a fixed price
quote. xxxx
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:40 pm 
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If you put a google search in for Mr Shaun Fountain, you can read about him Wink
2 of us have had our op's done by him and we are both pregnant xxx
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