Sterilisation Reversal : Costs, Hospitals ,Outcomes etc

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:55 am 
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Hi all,
I'm new to all this but have been reading the posts with interest for a couple of years.
It's at this stage I realise maybe I need some real first hand advice and support if anyone can help please
sterilized:2006
Clip method after 5 children 7 pregnancies.
Age 30
After saving and constant discussion with new husband 35 we decided to choose reversal over IVF due to having time to ttc rather than one at a time go's.
I chose to go to West Midlands Hospital in Birmingham although a fair drive away as I'd somewhere seen a post on one of these forums mentioning it and it being reasonable with a success story.
Won't go into anything at this stage but was without pre tests reversed age 36 November 3rd by open surgery and was sent home the following day advised 1-2 weeks recovery max (obviously not having open surgery previously I went with what the surgeon told me to advise work)
4 weeks on I'm still home, can't sit up for much time and returning to an office environment.Been prescribed antibiotics for potential infection as wound still open either side and haven't even been able to book a pre op because of the car journey
At the moment I can't imagine my body being right let alone conceiving.
I've read posts where women a week after the op mention looking forward to ttc whereas I'm at you touch me you die still.
Anyone had a similar experience? X Very Happy
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:16 am 
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Sorry I had keyhole so I was almost pain free after and was back driving and exercising after 5 days , I went for the keyhole option though because I'd had c sections and knew how painful open would be and couldn't face it Embarassed Laughing
How you're feeling doesn't sound right though Question I know the women on the reversal section who had open seemed to have varying amounts of pain but normally a couple of weeks in they felt much better Question After my sections by 3 weeks post op I could walk reasonable distances, felt well enough to drive and had no problems sitting up and my wound was still red and tender to touch but looking almost healed Question
I'd maybe take a trip back to the GP and see what they say as maybe there is some sort of build up from the infection that could do with draining ? (sorry sounds horrid I know but my sis got a build of blood and stuff behind her stitches after her hysterectomy and it was incredibly painful and hurt when she moved to the point she'd be in tears, as soon as it was drained she felt much better and everything healed well Question )
Or you might just need different ant b's ? Hope you feel better soon though Smile
Normally I'd say go to the getting pregnant after reversal bit if you want to chat or ask questions but its very quiet on there at the moment as quite a few of us have stopped TTC recently Question
Good luck getting that BFP when you feel better though xxx
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:37 am 
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Definitely phone your consultant who did the op has they are still responsible for your care until six weeks post op! I had open surgery had stiches popped 7 days post op and steri-striped my self back to together 2 days later everything had healed. 4 weeks post op I was back to normal.

Definitely phone your consultant asap! Smile
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:37 am 
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Thank you DL05 and jellybean for your responses. I knew something wasn't right in the way I was feeling, I'm normally quite well.
I'll be calling today and book for next week (my cons is only available on Wednesdays sadly)

I hope no drain is needed but whatever it takes to sort me out and get me on the mend will be jumped at!. It does feel like marbles are trapped under the skin on top of the cut so maybe there is a build up of something.

Thank you again for your replies, you've made me feel instantly welcome x



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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:38 am 
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Hi been reading this thread for a while just thought i would contribute my experience.

Me 35 at time of reverse op
sterilised 2004
flishie clips
reversed 9th jan 2012
Nottingham BMI
Dr Pickles
£3750
My story in short.
I have 4 children from previous marriage was very happy and was career minded. I was certain i didn't want any more children EVER. Then life happened, you can't control everything. Met new partner quite a few years younger than myself with no children of his own few years later booked a reversal with a surgeon who will remain nameless at Birmingham. I initially wanted Dr Pickles but the distance was to far to contemplate, so i thought. I then spent many weeks getting access to my old files from the surgeon/hospital i was sterilised with 8yrs ago. Organised child care, animal care etc booked time off work using plenty of holiday as sick days policy for elected surgery is minimal at my place of work.
On the day of my Op 1hr before admission and it takes an hour to get there i had a phone call it was cancelled. My heart sank i couldn't possibly get all this organised and paid for again this year. A few frantic phone calls to BMI Hospital services. I had a list of other surgeons at Birmingham none able to fit me in within the next couple of weeks. Just on a whim i call Mandy Dr Pickles secretary, explained my situation within the hour a had a reply that Dr Pickles could see me at the end of clinic the following morning if i could get there. Needless to say we were there. A long and lengthy discussion as obviously the notes of previous op's and my history were with B'ham and money also had been paid so that to was tied with the previous surgeon. Then he stated he preformed open surgery not key hole as previous surgeon but had an open slot in 3days if i wanted it. Done dusted by the end of the week. 3days in Hospital 4-5 weeks off work (pain is quite bad and don't laugh or find anything amusing, certainly no giggling, within the first couple of weeks after surgery lol). I still can not thank Dr Pickles and his team enough they were fantastic, professional and understanding. As a nurse specialist i have worked with many consultants/surgeons over the years i must say i was impressed with the communication of Dr Pickles and his team inc. the BMI services themselves who managed to transfer funds and sort refund within the 3days (over a weekend).
Sorry this is so long but after a miscarriage in March, chemical pregnancy in April i am now sitting here on maternity leave varicose veins, swollen feet/ankles, constantly tired and aching on crutches because of SPD the return of morning sickness and loving ever second of it. Our little miracle. I couldn't recommend Dr Pickles enough and i truely thank him for everything he did for us.
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:11 am 
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Thanks Hendrix1. I am so pleased to have found someone who took as long in recovery as I seem to be. I'm now in my 5th week and don't have anymore pending full pay sick days after this which to be fair my work have been fabulous about but I'm still struggling to sit up and seem to have what looks like an independent Michelin roll of stomach accumulating above the incision scar/wound
I'm back at my post op appointment with the consultant today.I'm not expecting much my care and overall experience has left me heartbroken at this stage to say the least. I'm trying to remain positive for a successful outcome because in my heart of hearts I feel broken rather than just infertile due to a choice
Fingers crossed for me and CONGRATULATIONS to you, it must've meant to be for you and your family xxx
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:33 pm 
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Hi Suzem Thankyou so much. I had read your previous comment. Did you see your GP regarding your concerns. I was very lucky although i had a long time off to recover, after the first couple of weeks i was up and about at home. I had no concerns with my healing process it was just at slow pace, but i also had very supportive friends who tended to house and horses etc ontop of this i also had OH treating me like a fragile precious gem (as good as it sounds i was thoroughly bored). A large reason for not returning to work apart from OH insisting i did nothing, was driving and not wishing to sit in one position spending long periods in the car. I really do hope it goes well today with your consultant. Everyone heals at a different pace try not to worry to much. I will have my finger crossed for you Good Luck Hunny Xx Hugs
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:53 am 
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JellyBean73 wrote:
Definitely phone your consultant who did the op has they are still responsible for your care until six weeks post op! I had open surgery had stiches popped 7 days post op and steri-striped my self back to together 2 days later everything had healed. 4 weeks post op I was back to normal.

Definitely phone your consultant asap! Smile


Hi Jellybean73 I was wondering how you doing after your op etc? Have you started ttc? Smile
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:13 am 
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Hi Suzem How did the appointment go??
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:37 pm 
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Hi Hendrix,

The consultant seemed happy with my recovery, she seemed astounded I was having trouble sitting and wasn't back at work and also shocked I hadn't got an infection (already being treated via my local Gp!).
She said as far as the operation went it seemed successful and the test with the dye showed it flowing through well my tubes although they have a natural kink which she's tried to rectify.
She also prescribed me 200mg Clomid for 3 months one month I've now taken and luckily had no side effects with.
To be honest though although I've finally returned to my office job and have an amazing boss letting me bob up and down all day I still can't sit down without discomfort,still have no sex drive and am beginning to give up hope I'll ever feel normal!. I used to be so well and happy it's awful to feel this rubbish and know there's not much I can do to improve the situation.
How's things with you? X
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:30 am 
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Hi Suzem
I am doing OK thank you.
Glad your Consultant feels everything went well and there's no obvious concerns. The problem is you can't look inside yourself and see if its all healed fine and is working. I know myself and esp. my OH became very uptight and low in mood after the 1st (and 2nd) miscarriages. He treated me as china and sex became difficult. In fact it was when i ended up just dismissing the idea totally and threw myself back into work, that i found out i was pregnant. Perhaps i relaxed mentally and the psychological shift aided us. I had spent so much time, effort and money on ovulation kits, pregnancy tests, herbal fertility supplements,perfecting my dietary intake etc must of come across as over obsessed freak to others lol. When i found out (only 6 months after the op.) I had been going out again. Not saying you should go out and party lol but i am just sure that the more relaxed version of me is what helped us rather than being guarded uptight.
I really regret getting sterilised in the first place and feel it shouldn't be offered so freely on the nhs, esp. as it is non-reversible with them (except under extreme circumstances)There are other reasons i feel this way too as i suffered with many health problems since sterilisation, IBS, Fatigue etc and just before i met my new partner was in contact with a surgeon in the states regarding PTTLS (not a condition recognised in the UK). I strayed from the topic sorry.

I really hope that you will feel better soon and glad the clomid isn't giving you any side effects. My fingers are crossed. Hope it works for you really do hunny Xx Smile [/img]
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:22 pm 
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ME 37 OH 41

tubal tie using clips (right side very close to uterus!!!) in 2007

BMI hospital in Nottingham under Dr Pickles on 21st Sept 2012 approx £3700.

No pre op testing, didn't see the point.

Open surgery performed, both tubes saved. left at least 7 cm long and in healthy condition. No stents used.

1st pregnancy test was positive on 16th October.

Currently 12 weeks pregnant.

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PS I asked Mr Pickles with regards to not sleeping on my side after surgery as I had heard it mentioned a few times. He said I could sleep what ever way I liked... so I did Very Happy

PPS despite open surgery I was playing in Alton Towers and having a grand old time 3 weeks after surgery

Laughing Laughing Laughing (little did I know I was already pregnant haha)
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:59 am 
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Fantastic news Jenny2611 Very Happy . Congratulations So happy for you Xx

PS. Have you informed Dr Pickles He and his team appeared genuinely over the moon for us.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:38 pm 
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Hi just wanted to thank ladies who have posted their story,it really helps if your trying to decide between IVF and reversal Smile and some great advicetoo from ladies who have actually been there
thanks Ladies Kerry x Smile
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