AskBaby Talk > IVF & Sterilisation Reversal > Getting Pregnant After Sterilisation Reversal Part 13..
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:52 pm
Hi oh not sure if hubby or i will need tests? as we have already got children? gosh i sound so dumb lol..
My GP isnt the easiest to talk to tbh, i only ever go if i really need to.. I really want to go through my notes to see where we stand reversal but its going to be a hard decision.. I guess talking to the consultant will give us a better idea of which route is best for us.. I just want to get started as im almost 39 now.. Hubby is 34 but not sure him being younger helps lol..
Goodluck again x
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:52 pm
Think the test are standard hubby and I have a child together
and still needed the investigations . If I was to start this journey again frpm beginging i would of chosen Ivf as the reversal
is such a rollercoaster journey ... Not saying Ivf isent but does take away some of the pressure
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:23 pm
I'd definately say have all the tests, both for you and your OH Gardenfairy as things can change , being sterilised can affect your ovaries as the blood supply to the tubes and ovaries is connected , which could be why some women find their hormones seem to go a bit crazy after the reversal and the cycles change
I'd get cd1-5 bloods done to check LH/FSH and oestrogen so you have an idea of how well you're ovaries are coping and it can give you some idea of your ovarian reserve , and also get bloods done a week after ovulation to check your progesterone levels to make sure they're not low which can stop pregnancies from implanting properly, and get your OH to have a SA even though you already have kids, while we were trying my OH who I have two children with realised he had a lump down below turns out he has a cyst that could be blocking the sperm tube completely on one side which will be halving his sperm count
Its always best to know upfront and then if there are any things that come up that could reduce your fertility if you were trying naturally then IVF may be a better way to overcome them
I have to agree with Quinny though the reversal is a roller coaster , I never thought for a minute it wouldn't work, in fact I expected to be pregnant the first month , I'd never really hard to try to conceive before and I found it very very hard and it did affect my relationship at times too I thought IVF would be harder but after speaking to women on here who've done it they mostly seem to say it wasn't as bad as they thought So on balance if I had my time over I'd go for it, at least you always know whats happening with that xx
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:19 pm
Post subject: thanks ladies
Thanks ladies, wow i didnt even think about tests ect, come to think of it i have been incredibly hormonal after my sterilization
Ive only `booked` in to get my medical records, i didnt tell the receptionist why so i will probably have to wait to get another apt for tests , will hubby need to come with me to that one to have his tests?
I just thought id have the op lol n didnt really think any further
Will the GP book me in for all the bloods or will i need to ask?? so sorry all the questions..
Grrrrrrrrrr i and many others wouldnt need to have all this if it wasnt for `idiot` consultants just sterilizing ladies as if it was willy nilly!(sorry but im still slightly angry pmsl)
Again thanks for all your advice,i am if im honest leaning towards IVF a little after all ive read, i too though "oh we`ll just get my tubes back together and we`ll be pregnant within a few months"
love and goodluck,Kerry x
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:12 am
Kerry my GP did all the bloods when I asked her, she's a woman though and was trying for a baby herself at the time so she was very helpful
I had the bloods after seeing my reversal consultant as I hadn't thought about them before that ,but it might be quicker getting them done now , they do need to be done on set cycle days though so its all about the timing, and for IVF you need extra bloods, I think you have to have HIV and Hepatitis done as standard But again most of the IVF Ladies seem to have got those done by the GP, If you rang any clinic up they might even tell you over the phone, or it may even say on their websites
My GP said they can do investigations on the NHS for you but not actual treatments, the bloods should come under investigations, for the SA we had to get a form from the doc (I got that) ring the hospital (I did that as he kept putting it off) and then take the sample in at the right time , again I did that my OH only had to actually produce the sample
The SA needs to go to the hospital direct as they need to check it pretty quickly, you should be able to book for your bloods at least at this GP appointment though if you know your cycle days, the first one has to be done between days 1-5 and the second a week after ov, thats the tricky one timing wise , it might even be worth using OPK's just to get a good idea of what day you ov'd then you can get it done 7 days later , or if you're very regular then 7 days before you think your next period is due but the OPK's will be more accurate
Ask all the questions you like, I wish I'd asked more before having my reversal xx
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:35 am
Morning ladies x
Thanks reply DL i am on CD5 today! grrr that means will have to wait another whole month for my first bloods then Plus my GP is male and as ive said not really the type to`chat` to or helpful!! so i presume he will forward me on to see nurse??
LOL RE us women having to do most of it, the men get the `fun` bit then all the forms, apts, bloods are down to the lady The world would be childless if men had the babies lol (no offence im sure there are some v good helpful/organised men too)
Good idea about the OV kits i think i will do that i just want to get things started so i feel im `doing something` togethopefully to my goal iykwim
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:44 am
Yeah I was the same, I went on a more healthy diet,cut out all alcohol and caffeine, got into exercising, lost about a stone and a half, started BBT charting and tracking my cycles so I'd have an idea of when I ov'd and also comfirmation I still did
Once you get going with either things can happen quite quickly I waited 6 weeks from consultation to my op which compared to others at the time was a longish wait, around 2-3 weeks was more the norm, and with the IVF if you're paying they can often fit you in very quickly and then its just a matter of the timing with your cycle .
Ohh how annoying with the timing for the bloods, but if you do get some OPK's then you could still have the progesterone one done this cycle xx
Wow Anna that is coming round quick , did they give you an idea of a start date yet ? xx
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:53 am
Gardenfairy, he should pretty much tell you all you need to know, but remember that often the ivf is expensive more so than the reversall, and you only get one shot at a time, I was faced with this decision, although the doc said that it would be much better to do reversal if all the tests come back normal, ie enough of the right hormones and eggs and your partners sperm, this happened to us although we. Are a bit older than you, me 39 partner 44, so I had to have tests day 2-4 of my cycle and day 21 so that was a month to do that, then after tests come ok and consultant see them he agreed to do them and then I had an app within 3 weeks, but that was a while as he had a holiday booked, so it depends on the schedule of the consultant and the space in the hospital, if it works like it did here, my consultant practices at a surgery (drs) 5 days a week and hire the space in the theatre And books the anethatist too, he will also ask you how the tubes were cut or tied, how many clips were used each side and how far down they was cut if they were cut ect, remember that ivf often involves a chance of multiple babies lol
Just remember that your journey starts here, it feels like a slow one to you, lol as we all want our babies yesterday, try and enjoy it xxxx
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:54 pm
They are more careful with how many embryo's they put back now in IVF so often they will only put back one if they get to blast so you have much less chance of a multiple birth , if you're older or they think the odds of each embryo implanting they might suggest 2 are put back, the implantation odds for an embryo at blast stage is about 50/50 so even with 2 chances are only one will implant, but then again as you get older trying naturally anyway your odds of twins rise slightly
You might only get to do one cycle of IVF for the same money as the reversal but you could get lots of eggs and have enough to freeze to do 2,3 or 4 or even more attempts at a frozen transfer if the first cycle doesn't work
Some reversal consultants say your best chance of a pregnancy is the first 6 months after the op and then the chances of scar tissue build up mean it might not happen So its not as clear cut as have the op and then you can try indefinately
Many of the women on here have been told one or both tubes are blocked at some point after the reversal , some have had ectopics because of partial blockages
Its swings and roundabouts to me now as with the reversal even having two clear attached tubes after the surgery doesn't mean those tubes can physically do what they need to do, which is something that I was shocked to find out after the op , I just presumed if they were attached and the dye flowed through them that they must work but apparently not its a lot more complex than that as there are tiny hairs that move the egg and sperm to meet each other and certain parts of your tubes secrete mucus which also helps with the process, another bit of the tubes can hold the sperm and actually feed them while they wait for the egg,you need a decent length of tube to be able to catch the egg from either side which can be important if you only have one tube or have a dominant ovary on one side so its not just how much tube is left, but which parts, that can all have an effect on future fertility
Its pretty complex which is probably why its so hard to give accurate predictions of who it will work for, and past fertility and even bloods results that are considered good don't always mean that you'll get pregnant , it certainly didn't work out that way for me
I know I found out a lot more after the reversal than I did beforehand, as before it I was just so blinkered about it being the only way
I'd definately advise anyone considering it to look at all the options and do a lot of research upfront, especially if you can only afford either one or the other xx
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:14 pm
Post subject: thanks DL
Hi again thank you so so much forall youradvice
There is a LOT to think about its really hard thinking you can only choose one or theother as cost andage come into it
I will research, research and research more but i now times ticking, as i said i am leaning towards IVF but DH is on the side of Reversal, anyone got a crystal ball its sooo hard to do what you think is best and not wanting to regret not choosing the other option..
I dont know who id take to, get advice from and share experiences if it wasnt for you lovely ladies sharing your stories..
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:20 pm
Hi Salad thanks for your reply
My GP is so hard to talk to ive often said i must change but never got round to it its a hard choice, i can see good and bad from both options but this site has given me lots of info and `real life` experiences(for which i thank you all)
Still unsure what to choose but i need to make a choice soon as times ticking
Goodluck with your journey, Kerry x
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:46 am
My OH was more for the reversal as he felt IVF would be too invasive and medicalised (is that even a word ) ironically I think I would have had much less poking and prodding in the end with the IVF and all he would have needed to do was produce a sample
Since the reversal I've had 1. a HSG to check my tube (march 2011) 2. a Lap and dye to see if the HSG was right (May 2011) 3. a second Lap and Dye to close my tube stump and double check my other tube (November2011) and 4. A Laproscopy and Hysteroscopy with tubal cannulation, to try and confirm where the blockage was and remove it, which wasn't successful (October 2012) and was told without a doubt then that the only way forward was IVF, thats after 5 procedures including the reversal lots of doctors and gynae visits and having to practically beg to get some of the investigations done, and over 2 years of TTC with no luck every month, for me personally nothing they could have thrown at me with the IVF could have been more invasive or stressful and now with the time thats been wasted we feel its probably too late for IVF as well
I think if you choose one and it doesn't work then unfortunately you will always then wish you'd picked the other and some things you don't know until afterwards , but the reversal certainly isn't the easy option out of the two as once its done then its purely down to chance what the outcome is , for a control freak like me I think I'd have coped with IVF better
Don't jump into anything though a few weeks won't make a difference to your chances and its much better to get all the info upfront even if that means waiting for consultations and bloods etc. first xx
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:05 pm
Hi Nat hope your well. Dont have a start date yet
My app on the 31st is to discuss the treatment because ive had all investigations
I will be sent to treatment clinic where an app will be made for
consent signing and group meeting . Once all done then we can move forward Im guessing end feb .
I keep asking myself am I doing the right thing can I cope with anouther emotional journey
Every mth its heart ache . guess ive already told myself its not going work . need think positive as hubby says xxx