Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:45 pm
Post subject: sterilisation reversal
Hi ladies i am new to this site, i wondered if anyone could give me some advice. I had a small heart attack after my youngest son 4 years ago....or so i was told on the advice of the doctors i got sterilised even though i wasn't sure...now 4 years later i have been told by the doctor at my new surgery that i didn't have a heart attack but they are not sure what happened to me. I feel like my chance of another baby was taken away from me due to wrong advice, but i can't prove this. I live in Fife and wanted to know if anyone has had reversal done on the NHS...thanks in advance
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:36 am
Very rarely it seems Usually after a loss of a child, but I'd say you have a good case if you were given misleading advice and a wrong diagnosis, first step is to get your GP to put in a request for a review/referral and then if they refuse appeal, as they will often just refuse and hope you go away
I would also get your GP to get together all the relevant information to do with your treatment after this "heart attack" and the records from the hospital to do with that time and when you were sterilised, as they may contain information about what you were told at the time and may strengthen your case
It can be a bit of a nightmare trying to get the information, but i've found recently that doctors receptionists and clerical staff at the hospitals are often very helpful at tracking stuff down for you , good luck xx
Oh and if they turn you down and you're under 36 and would consider IVF as an alternative (and it can be a good alternative for some women) and you were willing to egg share you can get very cheap shared cost IVF treatments
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:44 am
Post subject: sterilisation reversal
Thank you Nat...i am so annoyed at the way i have been treated, i was only 30 when it happened and my baby was only 6 weeks old, they kept me in hospital for 3 weeks and i had every test going including a very painful angiogram. The doctors told my mum and hubby that i'd had a heart attack (a small one ) and it was due to the size of my baby and my very quick labour 15 mins from start to finish ...i was dicharged and told to get sterilised asap....which i did 6 months later. I didn't want it done but was also very afraid of this happening again.
I went to the doctor a few weeks ago to enquire about pains in my lower right hand side where my clips are as i've had nothing but trouble since i was done, and she asked why i got sterilised i told her and she said that there was no note of a heart attack on my file...just an unconfirmed illness. My hubby is devastated as we decided to go ahead with sterilisation out of fear, if i have to pay to have it reversed i will but i feel that i was wrongly advised and my family were put through all the trauma of being told i had a heart attack at 30 years old my mother made her self ill with worry.
Thanks for your reply and advice i have an appointment on tue so fingers crossed i will get somewhere.
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:12 pm
I hope you get somewhere with it , i know the NHS are penny pinching at the moment and everything goes to a commitee and they will generally just say no straight off and then you have to really push to get anywhere , very frustrating but you should have a good case, it's terrible they said what they did if it wasn't confirmed must have been very worrying and upsetting for you , and 15 minutes i thought my second (counted as 23minutes with a 6lb 2oz baby ) was too fast but 15 doesn't really give you time to prepare yourself does it
If they won't pay i would look at the IVF options as well though as the success rates after reversals aren't brilliant , it can also seem to take ages to get pregnant as well, i did do an outcomes post in this section somewhere which is probably a few pages back now that could give you some idea of your chances, but its so individual its hard to say really , at least with the IVF you can have tests done first so you have an idea of how it will go
Good luck for tuesday xx
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:33 pm
Hi Iam in the process of having my reversal done on the NHS. I live in Glasgow and my doc reffered me to the specialist and Im scheduled in for the 12th October to get the reversal done. You should go speak to your GP and ask to be reffered to the specialist about it and take it from there. Fingers crossed for you hun xx
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:10 pm
Hi, I went to my doctor and explained my reason why i wanted the reversal and he said he would get me a referal to the specialist. I waited about 3 months for the referal and once i got it i had to then hand a sperm sample into our local hospital for analasis. 2 weeks after that we got a letter for a pre operation appointment. Had my pre op last week and they said that I would have the op done before the 1st October but due to me starting college and not wanting to miss to much i phoned and asked if they had sorted an appointment for the op and i was told the 28th September, Unfortunatly its my husbands birthday that weekend and we made plans as its my birthday the weeekend before so i asked the lovely secretary if she could arrange for me to have it done the october week and she said she couldnt promise but she would see. She has got my in for the 12th October and that gives me the October week to recovr. Hope you get it done hun xx
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:48 am
Are you England Sandiep ?
As the rules about referrals are different , the practice manager explained it to me yesterday at my GP's (for something totally unrelated) but she basically sad they can't do direct referrals anymore they all have to go to this panel now who almost always come up with a reason not to refer
Total money saving measure and pointless really as they still have to employ all these specialists whether they're sending them patients or not
But the more evidence you have for why they should do it the better .
If you're in wales or scotland though you might find it easier to get a referral xx
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:23 am
Post subject: sterilisation reversal
I am in Scotland Nat i live in Fife so not sure how it works here thank you to both you lovely ladies for your advice it gives me a little hope ....I will know for sure on Tuesday what the rules are here in fife and i will let you both know how i get on xx
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:22 pm
Sandie firstly it's great news you don't have a heart problem but it's awful that they didn't bother to tell you that and gave you such advice about sterilisation, I really do hope you can get the reversal.
Shelly - Do you mind me asking the circumstances the NHS agreed to your reversal please? I'm down in Ayrshire and my GP basically laughed me out of the consulting room when I approached him about the reversal. He wasn't even that keen on me going private and recommened I don't do it but has said he is willing to be me a private referal if I choose to go that route (which I am hoping to manage next year but finances are not co-operating at the moment. I am considering approaching another Dr in the practice to see if they are willing to refer me but even if they do that I don't know if the triage panel that agree non-standard procedures would even agree to it. Whilst in no way was I in a situation like yourself I also don't think my sterilisation should have been agreed (even though I was the one pushing for it) as due to my last pregnancy being unexpected (but very very wanted) and a pregnancy where I was unwell and great pain for the final 18 weeks of the pregnancy I was not in a rational frame of mind when I requested they perform the procedure during my c-section.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:30 pm
When i first went to the docs about the reversal i was told no they dont do it. I then emailed someone at NHS and was told that yes it was something that was still done on the NHS. I went back to a differant GP in my surgery and explained that I recieved an email saying that it was available on the NHS at that point he said to me ok i will make the referal to the specialist for you. And now its not long until i get the op. I will go through my emails and see if i can find out who it was i emailed and give you the email address if you like. Im sure it was NHS Lanarkshire i got the email from but im sure if you email them then they will hopefully be able to point you in the right direction of who to email in Ayr. Xx
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:41 pm
Thanks Shelly (and a huge congrats also - hope all goes well with your op). If I could go NHS it would be brilliant even if I have to wait a bit (I'll have to wait months and months to save for the op anyway and probably still struggle to find it all). So any help and information you can give me to get to me would be amazing).