[DL05]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[Jo3x]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[Pen81]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[DL05]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[nutty1]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[Jo3x]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[DL05]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[LHC]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[DL05]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[LHC]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[DL05]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[WifeyG]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[DL05]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[Ange1979]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx

[LHC]

Bit of a mouthful
Basically it's what i'm having in September , they go in through your belly button with one camera (laproscopy) to check out the outside of your uterus and tubes and ovaries and down below into your uterus through your cervix with another (hysteroscopy)to check for problems there, and then try and guide a fine wire into your tube , sometimes with a balloon catheter as well to try and clear any blockages (thats the tubal cannulation bit ) and then finally pass dye through the tubes to see if it's clear (chromotubation )
Sometimes it's done just like an HSG through the cervix using the x-ray pics to guide the wire into the tube and that can be done under concious sedation rather than aneasthetic .
Basically i'm doing this post because while researching it myself online I've found very little info on it in the UK , most of the stuff comes from the US , and yet the NICE guidelines from 2004 state that it is a good procedure to try for women diagnosed with proximal end blockages (blockages near the womb) before going on to IVF
So it should be being used more as a lot of infertility these days especially secondary infertility is caused by tubal problems
Almost all the UK sites I've looked on I've seen woman after woman told that IVF is the only option with blocked tubes, and was even told that myself back in last May originally and then again last November ,and yet this is a relatively simple procedure with good success rates , so i'm putting this post on so if someone else googles the proceedure hopefully they will find this and realise that it is available on the NHS in the UK , and should be discussed as an option before IVF if they want to try it .
The proceedure has a 80-90% success rate at unblocking tubes from the studies done so far and has comparable pregnancy rates to IVF , without the risks of complications such as OHSS or multiple birth , although it does carry a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy as any tubal surgery does .
But it also has the advantage of restoring fertility long term for a lot of women , their aren't many stats at the moment because not many docs do long term follow ups with HSG's to check tubes are still patent but just going from the longer term pregnancy stats for 2 to 5 yrs after this op it would seem like once the tubes are unblocked this way then for a lot of women they stay open maybe because there's no cutting and so no scarring
It is a popular procedure in the US, probably because health insurance will cover this but not IVF , so docs will try it first and I've read loads of success stories on US sites, so it frustrates me that it's not done more over here
It was only because I found out about it myself and pushed twice for another referral that i eventually got to the point of being given an op date for September If i had just accepted what the first doc told me last May (that there was nothing more they could do ) then I would never have got to this point now , i'm sure a lot of people do just accept that there's nothing more the NHS can do and end up paying for IVF , so i just wanted to put this post on to say :
It is available , not many surgeons in the UK do it but it is something you should be given the option of,
If a doc trys to fob you off, quote the NICE guidelines at him (it worked for me ) and insist on a referral to a hospital where this procedure is carried out so you can be assessed properly for suitability
I will update this post once I've actually had the procedure to say if it was successful , If anyones interested the surgeon who's doing my procedure is Dr Seif at St Mary's in Manchester I know there's a surgeon in scotland who does it on the NHS also and quite a few private clinics in London , but i had a real struggle trying to find any information on the NHS availability for this op and it was pure chance that i saw a doc for my last follow up who knew of this Dr Seif in manchester and offered to do the referral for me , but it is something that a gynae cons should be able to find out for you xx