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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:31 am 
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Hi last year June i went for a fertility check up the doctor told me that my tubes are blocked i recently learned about tubal cannulation i would like to know how much does it cost and would like to know places that do offer it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:00 am 
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Never heard of it hon, sorry.

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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:22 am 
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Both of my tubes were blocked, I had laprascopic surgery done on the nhs where a lovely gynae managed to repair them both.
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:25 am 
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Both of my tubes were blocked, I had laprascopic surgery done on the nhs where a lovely gynae managed to repair them both.
and how much did it cost i just want to know the price as i would really like to try it out as me and my boyfriend have been trying for kids for the past 3 years i am 26 and he is 34 years and we both don't have any kids never had a miscarriage or an abortion so we really need this please help. Crying or Very sad
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:37 am 
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It didnt cost anything as it was done on the nhs which is free.
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:48 am 
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It didnt cost anything as it was done on the nhs which is free.


please advise where is this nhs or what does it stand for.
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:54 am 
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I take it you are not in the uk?? The Nhs (national health service) is a free health service that everyone who lives in the united kingdom is entitled to.

What fertility check ups did you have done? Did they tell you where the blockages were etc?
Cost wise you are probably looking at a 2-3000 at a guess.
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:28 pm 
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I take it you are not in the uk?? The Nhs (national health service) is a free health service that everyone who lives in the united kingdom is entitled to.

What fertility check ups did you have done? Did they tell you where the blockages were etc?
Cost wise you are probably looking at a 2-3000 at a guess.


no luv sorry i'm in SA i went for a scan last year June.
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:27 pm 
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Have you had any kind of test where they run dye through your tubes to see if it runs all the way through? In the uk the test is called a Hysterosalpingogram should be called the same there too. If you havent had one of these tests done then Id be asking for one because an ultrasound alone cannot diagnose blocked tubes.
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:59 am 
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Have you had any kind of test where they run dye through your tubes to see if it runs all the way through? In the uk the test is called a Hysterosalpingogram should be called the same there too. If you havent had one of these tests done then Id be asking for one because an ultrasound alone cannot diagnose blocked tubes.

Thank you so much gal because i have an appointment booked already i will ask my gyne about it and see if we can try it out will let you know how it goes.
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:55 am 
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nutty1 wrote:
Have you had any kind of test where they run dye through your tubes to see if it runs all the way through? In the uk the test is called a Hysterosalpingogram should be called the same there too. If you havent had one of these tests done then Id be asking for one because an ultrasound alone cannot diagnose blocked tubes.

Thank you so much gal because i have an appointment booked already i will ask my gyne about it and see if we can try it out will let you know how it goes.


morning i checked my Doctors report from last year and it shows that i went for the Hysterosalpingogram X-ray and that is how they confirmed that both my tubes are blocked.
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:14 am 
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Hi, the HSG isn't always reliable, do you know where it said the blockages were ?
If it says proximal then it could have been from spasms as the tubes can react badly to the dye and clamp shut .
I had a diagnosis that my only tube was blocked proximally (at the uterus junction) after my HSG , I had 2 lap and dye tests which also seemed to confirm that, so I asked about tubal cannulation which I had last October, i'm also in the UK so I didn't pay either but I have seen costs for it privately from between £1500 to £3,000 depending on whether its done with x-ray guidance (a bit like the HSG ) or under anaesthetic which costs more because they need to pay the theatre staff .
In the US they often do the procedure in a doctors office with the x-ray guidance and it can be very successful depending on the reason for the blockage and that seems to be much cheaper .
I had mine done under general anaesthetic where they insert a camera through a small incision in your belly button and also a camera (hysteroscope) through the cervix into the womb and they use that to guide a thin wire into the end of the tube/s and they can see using the other camera if it goes through , doing it this way if there is a twist in a tube or an adhesion that's blocking the wires progress they can sort that out as well Smile
Unfortunately my procedure didn't work, the wire did go past where I was told the blockage was though so the HSG had been wrong, but then stopped at scarring from previous tubal surgery .
The cannulation can't clear heavy scarring , sometimes laser or other surgery can but you risk more scarring from that op Rolling Eyes
If you suspect you have tubal scarring from surgery or an infection then IVF might be the best option financially as that bypasses the tubes completely , obviously if the cannulation worked it could mean you could have more than one child over time and the IVF is a one shot thing for the money but if the cannulations not successful then you've spent money for nothing at least with the IVF you have a chance of having embryo's to freeze Question xx
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:59 pm 
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Hi,
nutty1 & DL05, pls can you tell me where abouts in the UK you had your cannulation surgeries? I'm interested in having this done but my doctors in Oxford don't seem to know anyone on the NHS who offer this procedure. Also, did you just get referred by your fertility specialists or did you need to apply specially for funding from your PCTs?
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:46 am 
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I had my cannulation at St Marys in Manchester, the doctors name was D Mourad Seif, he's one of the senior docs there, I was very lucky that on a follow up appointment at stepping hill after a Laproscopy to check my tube I saw a doc who'd worked with him during his training and he did the referral for me, he did ask if I wanted to go back to my GP and get them to do it but wasn't sure how simple that would be and suspected that it might be better coming from a gynae consultant Question I'd actually discovered about the procedure myself in the first place though it wasn't offered as such I brought it up but I found the NICE guidelines which say it should be offered as an alternative to IVF (which I didn't actually qualify for anyway on the NHS )and luckily the doc I saw knew just the man for the job Smile
I'm actually not under Manchester PCT or even under stockport PCT area either but you can be referred out of your PCT for treatment that isn't available in your area, there's also a man in Scotland who does the cannulation, there are some private docs scattered about too who do it, think its around £1500 to £3000 privately depending on the method ,you can either be awake and they do it using HSG as a guide or under anaesthetic and they use a camera in your womb and by laproscope as well , if you're asleep and there are adhesions etc. on the outside of the tubes they can correct those at the same time , whereas awake they can just poke about with the wire basically .
I had mine done with anaesthetic the grand title was Laproscopic and Hysteroscopic tubal cannulation with chromotubation which basically means they put a camera through your belly button and another through your cervix into your womb, send the guide wire up the tube and wiggle it about until it doesn't go any further then they pull it out and send dye through to see on the laproscopic camera if it comes out the ends or not Smile
Didn't work for me sadly but I have scarring from a tubal op but it has a good success rate generally Smile Definitely worth asking if you can get it on the NHS , Good Luck xx
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:36 am 
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nikkid101 wrote:
Hi,
nutty1 & DL05, pls can you tell me where abouts in the UK you had your cannulation surgeries? I'm interested in having this done but my doctors in Oxford don't seem to know anyone on the NHS who offer this procedure. Also, did you just get referred by your fertility specialists or did you need to apply specially for funding from your PCTs?
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I didnt actually have tubal canulation I had fallopian tube surgery which was done on the nhs whilst we were undergoing investigations etc at the infertility clinic, I was very lucky that I had an excellent consultant who did surgery on me twice. Both times he was successful but unfortunately we never achieved a successful pregnancy after either surgery and we ended up having to pay privately for ivf and 2 frozen embryo transfers.
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