Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:49 pm
Post subject: amazing breech birth!
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:58 pm
Sadly I didn't , I got bullied into a section in labour after being bundled off to the hospital instead of getting my home birth when my baby was discovered to be breech at 4cms dilated, as I hadn't done any research and was outright lied to by the doctor, who actually said flat out your baby could die if you don't do what we say I felt I had no choice I found out afterwards my baby was in whats considered the best presentation for a breech birth and two other doctors have said since they would have encouraged me to labour , since then I've seen some amazing video's where as you say the baby just seems to know what to do without interference from anyone :)they practically deliver themselves, and in Germany with my next pregnancy they were shocked I'd had a section just for breech as they consider it just an alternative presentation rather than a problem .
I'd love to see routine breech birth come back to the UK but thanks to the very damaging and largely discredited term breech trial which most hospitals seem to use as their guide I can't see it happening anytime soon which is a shame because breech birth is as safe as any vaginal birth when handled properly. If I did ever get pregnant again and my baby was breech I'd insist on a hands off natural birth
There was a Lady a while ago who had a surprise footling breech vaginal delivery though hopefully she'll reply to you
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:27 pm
Oh wow! Its awful isn't it. I was practically bullied into my section. I have a bicornuate uterus which makes things difficult anyway but she was a footling breech and barely fit inside me!
If my placenta wasnt slightly too low i would have insisted on a breech birth but i wasnt even given the option. Even at 5 months gone i asked my midwife if we could discuss my birth plan as im aware you need to book in your water birth early and she actually said they dont discuss it :/
I was offered to turn Lola but i find that procedure unecessary and virtually impossible without having a bicornuate uterus!
I believe they dont even show you the mechanisms of a natural hands off breech birth when studying midwifery. Im hoping to get in midwifery for 2014 intake, i'm hoping to specialise in awkward deliveries such as mine! haha xx
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:40 pm
From what the Lady who had the surprise footling breech said in her birth story it seems like the midwives didn't have a clue and just froze
I suspect one of the main reasons that c sections are now routine for breech births is because of skill fade for natural breech deliveries, some midwives never even see one anymore because they are so rare now
I know both the midwives I had went into panic mode and rang an ambulance without even asking me to get me to hospital as quickly as possible purely because they didn't want anything to do with a breech birth, they both actually looked terrified which then made me feel as though there was a problem
I read a lot of stuff about hands off breech births afterwards mostly by independent midwives and it all made sense but sadly most hospital midwives don't see it in action as a lot of doctors will still try to force a woman who wants to labour with a breech baby into an epidural and then use forceps which is totally unnecessary and can be dangerous . I hope you do get on the 2014 intake, the midwifery profession could do with some more midwives who are happy to take on the more unusual labours xx
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:23 am
I was watching one of those 999 type programs and there was a lady in labour whose husband had phoned 999 as she was ready to push. Telephone operator following his on screen prompts was telling her to get on the floor. She was having none of it and husbund had to pretty much force her. Then a foot appeared and operator was like stand up, stand up. Talked her husbund through what to do and told him not to touch Baby as can shock them and cause them to take a breath. He delivered a lovely healthy Baby to his wife. It was really emotional and the telephone operator was brilliant and stayed really calm although you could tell he was thinking 'oh [*CENSORED*]'.
I think I would look into trying for a natural birth if I had a breach presentation. I wonder if private midwifes are anymore experianced.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:35 am
Yes independent midwives are much more experienced. As in hoping to become a midwife ive been on workshops run by 'mothering nature'and the midwife who runs them is amazing. I even asked about my heart shaped womb and she said she's delivered women with a heart shaped womb previously. Also she sees a breech presentation as an alternative position. The only shame is though that independent midwives are being pushed out, no one will insure them any longer so she's becoming a teacher i think there's a decision to be made later this year. If we lose independent midwives I'd give up all hope of bringing a breech presentation into natural birthing. Xx
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:49 pm
my 24 weeker was breech his bum came through and cervix was tightly shut round his bum, csec isn't an option at 24 weeks he just shot out traumatic experience, but the bruising on his bum and back from me having no water for 6 weeks, i am so glad he wasnt head first or he'd of has the bruses there