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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:11 pm 
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the father of my baby makes no effort to come register him with me am I entitled to still get the CSA involved to claim child maintenance.

He has offered me 100 a month, although I am grateful I was told I would be entitled to alot more if I go through CSA.

Would be grateful for a reply or any experiences of CSA.

Thanks Beth
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:19 pm 
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you should still go to the csa hun especially if you are claiming any type of benefit as if you dont declare it you could end up in trouble.
it doesnt matter if his name is on birth certificate or not as they will write to him and make sure he is the dad. if he denies he is the dad they will book a dna test for you but the birth certificate is irrelevant.
hope this helps, i just think its better for all of you to do the whole thing legally atleast until you know he is going to be a good father and be reliable then you can always cancel the csa and sort something out between the 2 of you.
good luck. x
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:57 am 
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Thanks hun that helps. Hopefully will all sort itself out eventually x
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:02 am 
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u shud def go thru the csa hun jst incase he changes his mind about payments but im not sure how much u will be entitled to because it all depends on how much he earns and how much he pays out
my oh pays his ex thru the csa and he was payin her far to much so we asked to get re assessed and turns out she is only entitled to 60 a month and he had been payin her 200
but it all goes down on how much ur ex earns and how much he pays out on bills, and if he has overnight access to the child that comes into consideration to we have my ex's son 3 nights a week so i think thats one of the main reasons we pay so little now

but if u dont go thru csa what gaurantee have u got that he will give u the money? so its always best to go thru them,

gl hun x
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:32 pm 
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My experience with CSA is little - and from the other side of the fense shall we say.. my husband has 4 children in Devon.
Before we had children together he used to pay 5 each per week so 15-20 one child is over 18 so im sure he didnt pay for her..

Anyway since we had children he pays nothing to them - simpley becuase he has another family now - and although the stupid CSA havent recalculated this and think we owe them money we actually dont.

CSA are not organised - and im sure they are going to be closed down or something for what good they are.

I would try to come to a agreement with father yourself, its alot less messy that way. xx

GD luck hunx
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:56 pm 
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my daughter is 12 yrs old and they havnt managed get a penny out of her dad...
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:58 pm 
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my daughter is 12 yrs old and they havnt managed get a penny out of her dad...


Exactly - its best to try to sort out between urselfs - something is better than nothing, gl hunni x
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:04 pm 
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Thats what i'm worried about. I've heard people have had so much trouble with the csa and i bet its terrible for a new mum.
I'm in the fortunate position of littles dad being a policeman an he still lives at home, so he can't lie and can be found easily.
I do think what he has offered is better than nothing but if he is truthful to csa i'd get 100 more for my littles. Its hard when I don't really have a clue how much i'll be spending on him.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:45 pm 
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i have 2 daughters diffrnt fathers.the 1st is always in and out of jail so csa said he doesnt have to pay, which i am glad about so he doesnt think he has a claim on her.the 2nd father has his own buisness but according to the csa he only takes home 5 a week so he doesnt have to pay either.during an arguement he said he shouldnt have to pay as his mum was looking after her so i could work
both my girls will know when they are at the right age that their fathers didnt help.
this baby is a boy but was a 1 night stand,so i wont have to go through that again
blinking males no wonder im staying single iv got my boy Laughing
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:05 am 
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Very Happy Go to the csa and make a claim @ least if he doesnt help in the future they will have your claim on file, the only thing i will say is if he is self employed you will struggle if he doesnt coopreate with them fully. my ex hasnt helped in 12 years and we have gone through bailiffs, bank accounts and the last time he was sent to prison to which he paid 800 the day after so he could be released. Its going to committal again for 6,000 so i doubt my son will see a penny. they can also suspend any sentence so basically the child recives nothing it just stays on the csa case load as a debt.

Anyway im rambling on as it can be v frustrating with them.

If you have to go through DNA and the result proves him to be the father he will have to pay the cost of the DNA also. If you are on benefits or were to go on benefits and you didnt want to declare your childs father they can put a sanction on your claim and pay you @ a lower percentage until you complete a CS1 form.

If you do go to the csa i recommend that you ring them weekly as i found quite often nothing will get done unless you keep in touch with them and you will get umpteen case workers as your case is dealt with, keep notes on when you speak to them and what they have said their next step is.

I hope it doesnt get as frustrating or hurtful for you as our case has as you want the best for your child but make sure you and yours are covered and supported legally in case the father does get neglectful.

Hope this helps as the others did. All the best xx
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:54 pm 
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i would go to the csa , 100 doesnt seem alot to me a month!
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:21 pm 
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hi Smile
my experience of the csa is that my partner pays his ex through them. From what I know If you are married at the time the child is born then he is the assumed father. If he thinks hes not he has to prove it. If you are not married and he agrees to be on the birth certificate its the same - he is the assumed father. If he doesnt go on the bc then I think you have to prove to csa. Hope that makes sense?! So i would make sure he is on the birth certificate.

My partner used to pay his ex for over a year direct, but because she is on benefits they automatically contacted him. Also if you are on benefits and not working he could pay csa 300 or 100 a month and you would still get the same amount from csa - this is to cover the benefits they say. The amount he has to pay depends on his earnings, how many nights he has the child/ren and if he has any other dependents. Also since my partner has been paying csa instead of her she doesn't get her money as regularly - they do seem a little incompetent. She's actually no better off and she can't guaruntee when the money will arrive.

I would suggest arranging between yoursleves. If he doesnt pay then you can contact csa and get it backdated if he isnt reliable.

Try the csa website - if you know roughly how much he earns you can use the calculator to work out how much he should pay. Then use that to negotiate with him. If he doesn't agree then you can go to the csa.
Sorry it's a long one but hope it helped!
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:49 pm 
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my husband gave up his share of the house when he left approx 45 thousand pounds - his ex spent that v quickly and claimed benefits and csa automatically got involved - basically we my dh has to pay additional money to csa as she will not agree to compromise. if she did we could pay her upto 40 per week(2 children) wihout effecting her benefits - unfortunately she doesnt want that so we have to pay 100 per week although she will only get 10 per child per week. the res of the money goes to the government as they are paying her benefits.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:10 am 
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It's amazing how much peoples views differ when it comes to this.
I think I have sorted out my ex will set up a standing order into my account, I think I can trust him.
The only thing thats annoyed me is he's said he's got to check with his family before he gives me a definate. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
It's like they are all the father of my child.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:19 pm 
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has to check with his family? that does sound annoying. the csa wouldnt do that - he should be pleased you are willing to sort it between yourselves.
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